Maybe another 3,000 miles to go, not bad to get 20,000 miles on such soft rubber. Don't mean to bring this thread back up, but would you mind posting a pic of how the whole car looks with your tire setup? Even as a daily driver (I have not tracked that car in 22 years) I think I will stick with the RE71R's when the current set wear out. Does anyone have experience with PSS vs RE11, PSS vs RE71, or RE11 vs RE71? When you're on some smooth roads, they howl like crazy. On the other hand, it has better turn-in, better cornering grip, and better feel. It might be 1 sec (in the dry r71r) faster, compared to 2-3 sec faster in the wet for the PSS. The wet performance is much larger then the dry. Help millions of other tyre buyers, Sorry, we don't currently have any label data for the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R. I'll be purchasing a set of 17x8 +35 RPF1's with RE71R's just for the autocross days and maybe a track day a couple of times a year. Also amazing how even the wear is across the thread. A bit under two years ago with 13,000 miles and plenty of tread left I decided that time was the enemy of those tires and a threat to my well-being. I always say they are made of "black magic and mozzarella cheese". Sign up to receive latest updates for Ferrari News, Threads, and Classifieds. Keep in mind that the Z4 is a much heavier car and has a lot more power. All rights reserved. They are pretty noisy for daily driving. These will be daily drivers with a lot of highway cruise and rain. It appears superior to the Michelin PS4S for track use (the 4S isn't really a track tire) and in my opinion (and without having actually driven a car using them) the RE71R is closer in nature to the M PSC2, but at a much lower price. I will put them on my 16M when the Pilot Super Sports wear out. I was leaning RE11 vs RE71. One last thought. Lasted me about 20000 miles, only 3 track days but incredibly aggressive daily driving. But after almost a year of the RE71Rs, they are all chipped up. Well, I had the Pilot Sport P4's installed on my 430 today and all I have to say is that after the first few hundred feet I felt like, (You must log in or sign up to post here. I will up the fronts to 245s to replace the 235s on now. 305 rears on the stock 19" wheels? I just clocked 36,000 miles on my 2016 M3. Perhaps in a colder climate I would not feel the same way, as cold weather and extreme performance tires don't get along. I'm running these tires on a '98 Porsche Boxster. The tires provide all the grip you want short of mounting hoosiers to the car. I noticed it more as it's worn down a bit. The Bridgestone Potenza RE71R is a Extreme Performance Summer tyre designed to be fitted to Passenger Car. ). But from a performance standpoint, they are so good at what they do. Those tires were terrible and the ABS was constantly engaging. I don't see any abnormal bulging, no problem with traction control and no rubbing with 305/30-19 on stock 10in wide rims. © 2020 MOTORSPORT NETWORK. Discussion in '360/430' started by michaelo, Nov 15, 2017. After research I overcame my predilection in favor of Pirelli - I was for almost thirty years the guardian of the one-off 365GTC speciale built by Enzo for his friend, Leopoldo Pirelli, Chairman and CEO of his eponymous Company. Will definitely buy again. And if I ever decide to take that car to the track again, I know the tires will be up to it. But that is just me. Bridgestone RE-71R Extreme Vs, Michelin PS 4S Tires - YouTube They're $128 today and in 2016 were $115. I do not believe the Potenza RE71R is available in Europe at the moment. Tires are also just more expensive. But for what I use the car for (mixed daily driver / track use), I find the B RE71R to be superior. or it is similar temp as PSS/PS4S? Are these any better grip wise? Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it crosses painted lines). Also, they sound like a winter tire driving down the road. Part of MOTORSPORT NETWORK. Are you sure AD08R is quieter than Re71R? Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. I fitted the Michelin Pilot Sports. Great so far. I'm not going to tell you that the Pilot Sport 4S is better than the RE-71R. I need a little more front grip to have less understeer. You and I come from very different schools of thought. Thanks, it looks like its more sticky and strong sidewall than pss and ps4s. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. I have them on my 2003 BMW M3. I'll take the slight comfort, noise and wear penalty to have a tire that I know will just stick when I need it to. That's impressive. Sure looks familiar. Never tracked or drag raced on these tires, just some high speed ramps to highways and a long 4,000 mile trip across country. As I also don't track this car, other than fun 'parade' laps at Watkins Glen and Lime Rock, I've found them to perform flawlessly. This was always just a daily setup that would be enough to get me back into autocross after 15+ years off. I'm concerned with road noise, ... A 255 RE71R will give you more traction than a 275 PSS. Here's a pic of the rear tire side profile. I find both the PSS and PS4S easily overwhelmed by M4 ZCP power even on 295s. Which model of the BC Forged? In fact, I will probably end up putting the RE71R on every car we own, for which they have the correct fitment (other than our BMW X1). Considering they're still 305s on stock wheels. The price of a RE71R in a 205/50-15 has gone up 10% in the past 3 years. In my most recent track session, with the tire warn about 50%, I've seen cornering forces in the 1.4G range and the tire just sticks. To verify you're human please type the word you see above in the box below. It's not, if you're comparing new tires vs. new tires. I got about 8k out of the rears and 17k from the fronts. Lots of grip and great in the rain. With the RE71R's at 3 track days and an autocrosss day, the wear is in the 50% range and I expect to have to change them sometime during the next track season. Michael, my 2004 575M came fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. They also kick up a huge amount of debris/pebbles. Maybe only a couple 200 tw rated tires that come close to the grip these tires offer. 2018-05-31 - Is that tyre available in Europe? RE71R have been dominating Autocross events in America for years now. Of course the only complaint is they are a little noisy, depending on the road surface. A tad noisy on the highway due to thread pattern. 225/45-17 in front and 255/40-17 in the rear. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it … The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. They wear more like 150tw however. If money were no object and I was looking for a road only (daily driver, if comfort and noise were important to me) tire, I would go with the M PS4S. Has constant performance throughout the life of the tyres unlike the ad08r which was great for the first 30% and the rest felt like skating on ice. Maybe some updated opinions on them if you have any. Also, the Z4 is front-engined vs. the mid-engine Boxster which probably accounts for some of the improved turn-in for the Boxster. 10/10 will buy again. I think that I will be able to get at least 2 seasons out of the 4S vs. about 1 or maybe a little more with the RE71R. for RE71R, does it requires higher temp as MPSC2? While the PS4S have now survived the equivalent of 5 track days with relatively little wear, there are a coupe of spots where the tread has chunked. They were pretty quiet when they were newer. But having driven both in anger now, I'm going to say that Pilot Sport 4S tires on their third event are probably as good as RE-71R tires on their third event. I will also make the statement that I *think* the PS4S will outlast the RE71R even on the track (or maybe especially on the track) so, even though the PS4S costs a fair amount more, overall the RE71R's may end up being more expensive. Never tracked or drag raced on these tires, just some high speed ramps to highways and a long 4,000 mile trip across country. I have no opinion on their wet weather or cold weather behavior as I live in Phoenix, AZ and if it rains I don't go out. When I purchased the car, it came with a mismatched set of all weather tires that I took to an HPDE session at the beginning of 2019. Certain roads they do howl like crazy but around S Florida normally the road surface is not that noisy. I've been running my RE71R for almost a year now. They do not talk when on limit like a normal street tire, instead they grip quietly until they break free, making an awful groaning noise when they do, not the typical high pitched screeching. Is that the little league field off PCH and Malibu Cnyn? You will have to spray the tires to keep them cool on hot summer autocross days. They truly are great tires and so much fun to drive aggressively on. The RE71Rs are my second set, which have 17,000 miles on them. Great wet weather performance and can effectively cut through small standing puddles but gets sketchy with deep puddles. I will be picking up the RE71R's when my Pilot Super Sports wear out. The first session of this year was at the same track and the difference was night and day. Tyre review data from 8 tyre reviews averaging 78% over 52,400 miles driven. I have the same tires on my '97 E36 M3 (225/45-17 F, 245/40-17 R) and I love them on that car. The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. Have YOU got experience with the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R? Currently running 245/40/17 PS4S on 17x8 +35 wheel. One of the most common questions submitted to Tyre Reviews is asking the differences between the Michelin performance tyre range, specifically the differences between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2.. 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